The Alarma Radio Special
Produced by Bruce Brown
Bruce Brown: "Daniel Amos, any discussion about
this band invariably, raises eyebrows and
often voices. The fact that their name incorporates those of two Old Testament
prophets, adds a
sense of urgency and authority to their live and recorded presentations.
Our guest on the Daniel
Amos Radio Special will be Terry Taylor, the bands chief songwriter and
vocalist. We'll be
getting an intimate insight into the audio, visual, and spiritual concepts
behind the brand new
Daniel Amos album Alarma."
it's a brain drain overload/ laid out on the reel to
reel
a warning of the afterlife/ the afterbirth and telling how we feel...
Bruce Brown: "Alarma, the title cut from the
album we'll be featuring on the Daniel Amos Radio
Special. When we return we'll take you to Whitefield Studios and introduce
you to Terry
Taylor..."
Bruce Brown: "This is Bruce Brown of Living
Water Productions and I'm here today to talk to
Terry Taylor, composer and singer from the group Daniel Amos..."
Terry Taylor: "Singer extraudinare."
Bruce Brown: "I wanted to say that, but I thought I'd better
not."
Terry Taylor: "(Ha ha ha) yeah well, here's your money
anyway."
Bruce Brown: "We're here at whitefield Studios in Santa Ana where
the group has just finished
Alarma, their first for the Benson company, specifically to be on
Newpax Records. How was the
Alarma project conceived, was that something that evolved out of
songs that you've written over
a number of years or did it pretty much happen in a few months or weeks
time?"
Terry Taylor: "They're very personal songs that were written
out of the experiences of the last
three years. Usually when I write songs, songs come slow to me. Sometimes
you'll be very very
inspired and you'll sit down and a song will flow and it will be there,
and other times you'll start
writing a song and write down a thought or an idea and it just doesn't
seem to develop and you
put it aside and come back to it later. But the songs for Alarma,
it was like being on a roll - like
(he he he) you'd call it. "
Bruce Brown: "Opening side one of Alarma is a song with
some rather unusual celestial
imagery, 'Central Theme'."
Terry Taylor: "I was watching a news program and they were talking
about the rings of Saturn
and they were saying that the winds blow through the rings causing these
vibrations that they
said sound like solar screams. And that was just awesome to me, and another
thing that I had
read was concerning the mysteries of the moon, and one of the mysteries
of the moon is that
when an object strikes the moon , that it echoes like a gong. And I felt
deep down inside of my
heart just how incredible our Lord is. The maker of the universe and yet,
him becoming man
and walking among us."
central theme/ the most important thing
central theme/ the tie that binds together...
Bruce Brown: "One particular problem that is
addressed on the Alarma album is the notion of
somebody becoming a Christian celebrity. Is that a portion of the inside
of Terry Taylor?"
Terry Taylor: "Certainly is. There's that temptation to covet
and desire the mortality and at times
we aspire to wanting power and greatness and recognition. We have to examine
ourselves, and
we have to check ourselves out and ask ourselves honestly whether or not
our motivations are
pure in what we desire. So, 'Big Time-Big Deal' is addressing that issue
and it's the finger's
pointing at my own heart and my own life. It is not glamorous, I count
it as a privilege to be
called, because I love to create. And I have the incredible privilege of
doing a job that I enjoy
but at the same time there's a deeper responsibility, that aspect of ministry.
I hope I'm being
honest when I say that if God calls me to something else, if God calls
me to sweep floors at
Sears, as a matter of fact He did call me to do that for a couple of years.
Then I will do that -
because I can only be happy doing what God has called me to do. "
beam it on the satellite/ send it through the t.v.
get it on the play list/ and preach it to the masses...
Bruce Brown: "Daniel Amos has often been criticized
for taking their music to night clubs and
other secular settings. As featured performers at England's Greenbelt
festival, DA had the
opportunity to play to over fifteen thousand people. But an experience
in a small pub, near the
band's hotel, convinced them of the need to relate to people in a more
intimate atmosphere."
Terry Taylor: "One of the things that we did when we were in
England to do the Greenbelt
festival, we were all at this hotel, this is in Bedford England and the
manager was very friendly
and talked to us quite a bit. And we with him, and we talked in generalities
about the concert
and Greenbelt and what that was all about. So, the people from the hotel,
including this
manager, asked us if we would be in to doing a concert for the people there
at the hotel. And
then they approached us later with the fact that there was this pub down
the street and would we
mind setting up there. Well, we thought this is - this is a wonderful opportunity
and we went
down to the pub we sat up our equipment, Tom Howard opened up then we
came on, it was just
a full on evangelistic meeting, you know. And it was, we shared the songs
so it was this warm
intimate atmosphere. And you could just tell that these people were not
only touched by the fact
that we desired to do a special thing, you know. Which was really no big
thing, I mean, we
really enjoyed doing it. But they were also touched by something deeper,
and that was they
sensed the reality of Christ. They heard about Christianity, and as a matter
of fact, the manager
from the hotel got up after we'd got done playing (and it was not only
the people from the hotel
but it was just you know the normal customers in this little pub) and he
got up afterwards and
he says I want to thank everyone here from America for doing this special
thing for us. And also
for allowing us to see that Christianity is real. When he said that it
blew me away because here
was this festival at Greenbelt, thousands and thousands of people, and
that was a wonderful
experience of Christians coming from all over to see the various bands
that played. But that
wasn't really the greatest experience there, the greatest experience was
this little pub in Bedford
where these people gathered to hear the band and where a man who had heard
about
Christianity stood up and said that it was the first time in his life where
he had felt that there was
something of substance to what Christianity was all about. That is what
Daniel Amos wants to
do as far as playing in a club. The idea of playing in a club, first you
have to be able to play the
kind of music the people are going to accept and they'll say well that's
professional, I like what
they play. And you get yourself in the door and then your able to say something
of substance
concerning the Gospel and Christian message. It's a slow process but we
want to gain access to
the people, that's who the message is for. I don't think people have a
problem with the Christian
message being conveyed in a club situation. I think that's the challenge,
I think that's exactly
what Christ did. He took the message to the people, a lot of people would
rather see Christian
music in the church, that's where it should be and it shouldn't go anywhere
else. I think if we
have a message for the world it's going to have to be preached in the
world."
Bruce Brown: "One would think that being leader and spokesman
for a high visibility band like
Daniel Amos requires a person to relish the limelight, but says Terry..."
Terry Taylor: "I'm basically introverted person, I - it's very
hard for me to be with a lot of
people and I can tend to be an isolationist, just being secure in the things
that I have you know.
And you begin to live a sort of pie in the sky relationship without interaction.
So, 'My Room' is
a call to break out of that and begin loving your neighbor as yourself."
i live/ in my room
it's warm here/ in my room...
Bruce Brown: "Terry Taylor talks about the excitement
of recording the Alarma album when the
Daniel Amos Radio Special continues..."
Bruce Brown: "Welcome back to the Daniel Amos
Radio Special. The need to reach out to our
fellow human beings is expressed throughout the Alarma album but
never so poignantly as in
'Faces To The Window' which focuses on world hunger."
Terry Taylor: "It's so easy for us to say 'oh I've got to get
something to eat I'm starving'
you know, we have no - no concept of what that is. And I just sort of shut
myself off to that
for years, and years, and years. Not recognizing the needs of the world
as an essential part of
Christianity, I don't think there is Christianity without action concerning
our neighbor and I
haven't even begun to scratch the surface on actually doing something about
it in my life.
But I hope to get beyond just the revelation that there are people out
there that are starving,
I hope to do something about it."
i go to work/ i work hard
i do come home exhausted/ i go to sleep quite early...
Bruce Brown: "There's a lot of different things
going on, on the album, that listeners may not
catch the first couple of time around and I suspect that a lot of that
is due to your engineer
Thom Roy and his becoming a coproducer with Daniel Amos and his extensive
involvement
with the group."
Terry Taylor: "Initially we started out it was just being produced
by Daniel Amos but the
further we on we really felt that Thom was part of that, and deserved that
credit. The studio
experience was really incredible, I mean there was a real freshness and
we really wanted to
capture a lot of air and a lot of breath in the arrangements and with the
four piece band I think
that was accomplished."
Bruce Brown: "Was the album actually cut live, as it were, in
the studio? "
Terry Taylor: "Really it was, more or less, vocally - you know
we did the vocals separate, which
is a common thing. We were really determined that we were going to try
and do one, two, three
at the most takes, usually we got it the second take. And that means not
every hair is in place,
you know but yet that gives it the air of being live."
Bruce Brown: "Love and respect are key elements woven in to many
of Alarma's lyrics. But
these elements have to be exorcized in a very firm fashion, as related
in the song 'Baby Game'."
Terry Taylor: "There is a point at which God doesn't tolerate
man's hardness of heart and sin,
it's the same with us, sometimes we just need to shake a person and say
'Hey get up and get
going because you're just - all you're doing is making excuses.' If there
is a place for anger,
I think our anger needs to be checked by the Holy Spirit, it needs to be
motivated by love and
concern and a desire to see the end result in that person's life."
she was so sweet when she was innocent
now she's a crib case it's all very disgusting...
Bruce Brown: "Closing out side one of Alarma
is 'Colored By' a song which asks the question
'What does God really want me to be?'
Terry Taylor: "It's basically addressing cultural Christianity
as opposed to the Christianity that is
talked about in the Bible and teaching our own commandments instead of
those commandments
that set down in the scriptures. "
you might not recognize/ the truth gets colored by
wrong things/ bad things do disguise...
Bruce Brown: "Is there really and 'Endless Summer'?
Stick around for the second half of the
Daniel Amos Radio Special and find out..."
Bruce Brown: "Your listening to the Daniel Amos
Radio Special where we're highlighting songs
from the band's new album Alarma. Although Alarma is not
a concept album perse, some of the
songs do have interrelating themes. As in the case of the song that opens
side two, 'Through The
Speakers".
Terry Taylor: "There's a relationship between
'Through The Speakers' and 'Big Time - Big
Deal' and also 'My Room' and isolating ourselves just sort of sending our
records out, you
know. We can just stay in our studio and send out our little messages,
you know. But, Christ
equals the human touch and the ability to be with the people. And in concert
you experience that
sometimes where you just feel that, you know you're just an image on the
stage instead of being
part of that crowd. And that's something that you try and overcome at a
concert, well it's the
same thing you want to do in your records. Is not forgetting that those
are human beings you're
addressing out there and never forsake in your ministry touching and being
with people and
being an intrical part of their lives. I have a tendency not to like to
do interviews because I feel
you know, it's putting me in a place of like here's the guy that has the
answers . And really I'm
groping around like everybody else, Christian music is a baffling thing
to me. It really is I -
(ha ha ha) I just don't understand it but I do have an inkling of what God
requires in my life,
and I just want to be faithful to his calling."
you're speeding/ you're going running everywhere
can't tell you in person/ i'll tell you on the air...
Bruce Brown: "The literary style of Alarma's
lyrics is largely due to Terry's respect and
admiration for fantasy allegory authors such as C. S. Lewis."
Terry Taylor: " I love Lewis' Narnia Chronicles because there's
not this blatant- it's not a blatant
theological work. But he deals in myths and yet conveys in a very strong
sense the Christian
message and who Christ is. I cried reading Narnia Chronicles, I was touched
deeply, I cheered
when I read the Chronicles. In the subtlety was power, was an incredible
power, and so I think
I want to try and do the same thing lyrically."
Bruce Brown: "The first fruits of Terry's interest in this approach
to writing appear in the
Alarma album in the form of a short novel."
Terry Taylor: "Well it's actually the first three or four chapters
of a continuing Chronicle that
will appear in the next three albums that complete the Alarma Chronicles.
And it's sort of a
fantasy story much in the vain of C. S. Lewis and George McDonald and
that sort of thing and
it's a little story which really adds enlightenment to the total concept
of the album."
Bruce Brown: "Ah, enlightenment to the total concept of the album,
our chief reason for doing
this special. Regarding the rather unusual graphics in and on the Alarma
package Terry said..."
Terry Taylor: "It's not your average album cover as far as what
you would pick up in your local
Bible book store. We really took a lot of time to develop the concept
and we really want the
package to convey what the music conveys. And I really hope that everyone
who sees the album
will take the time to find out what is the underlying message. "
Bruce Brown: "So you're really admonishing Christians in this
album to bring their intellectual
powers in to focus as well as just having a Spiritual experience."
Terry Taylor: "I believe that these are God given capacities,
and it's a challenge to exercise the
powers of the mind. When I get a record album I know that I like to open
it up and have more
than just the music that I listen to but I like to see the visual things
as well and this is just
going to give a lot to a person that they can really get totally involved
in this album."
Bruce Brown: "If you look closely at the inside cover, everybody
get their's out now and open
up to the inside and you will see if you look hard enough that there is
something that represents
a good portion of the songs if not all the songs contained in the picture."
Terry Taylor: "It's sort of like treasure hunt."
Bruce Brown: "What is wrong with this picture?"
Terry Taylor: "What is wrong with this picture. What is wrong
with this picture and what is
right with this picture. And it's going to be a challenge for the person
to really relate the
different things that they see in the picture. Not only with the story
that will be included with the
album but relating the story, the picture, the outside cover, the inside
cover - everything with
the music itself and lyrical content. We just hope this makes it personal
to those that likes to
listen to music and there's an entertainment aspect involved but I believe
it's a serious work
and will cause people to begin to really listen to what the Lord has to
say to the church today."
Bruce Brown: "'Hit Them' a song that illustrates the need for
allowing God's Spirit to function
in our relationships is based in part on an event which happened early
in Terry's Christian
experience involving his brother Randy."
Terry Taylor: "The very first time that I quote witnessed to
someone which was my brother,
I'd received the Lord and I was new in Christ and I just wanted to tell
someone I was so
excited and I went home and it was very late at night and my brother was
asleep in bed and I
threw open the door, turned on the light - in all this ruckus my brother
woke up and he was
looking at me and he was, you know been in deep sleep. And I started telling
him at that time
about Jesus, I really meant well but I think it just didn't really come
off, you know. And he just
reacted with 'Well, Terry you've finally gone over the hill.' and he laid
back down and went
back to sleep. Well the Lord gave Randy a dream in which we were walking
together and my
brother saw the Lord coming back and saw me rising up off the ground and
going to be with
the Lord and he remained there on the ground. And it was at a sort of evangelistic
crusade in
which through that dream the seed was planted in his heart, through the
Holy Spirit. And there
was a message that was just very pertinent to my brother's life and he
gave his life to the Lord.
And it was just an example of God intervening, you know. And sort of taking
our little futile
weak efforts."
i hit them too hard/ i hit them with the book
he had to take another look/ then i hit him with love...
Bruce Brown: "The history of Daniel Amos in
a minute and fifty one seconds, when the Daniel
Amos Radio Special returns..."
Bruce Brown: "We're back with Terry Taylor of
Daniel Amos and more from the band's first
Newpax release Alarma."
Bruce Brown: "This is a quantum leap from Shotgun Angel and
perhaps a bit of a jump
for a lot of people to follow you on, I wonder if you could give just a
brief overview
of Daniel Amos?"
Terry Taylor: "The evolvement of Daniel Amos
from a county band to more of a rock band
is something that has been a gradual thing for us, people come and see
you at a concert and
maybe they see you once a year and not even that sometimes. Four years
ago they saw you
sitting down in chairs, you know with acoustic guitars. And then another
three years pass,
we see the evolvement and it's not an overnight thing to us but to some
people it's
understandable that it seems as though this has been an overnight transition.
Uh, we've had
two albums out, the first one was just a plain old country album. Shotgun
Angel was - you could
begin to see the transitional thing that was happening there with a combination
of country and
rock and roll music. Then Horrendous Disc was in to more of a pop-ish
sort of produced thing
and Alarma now is just a real hard driving rock concept. So I think,
you know there's been a
progression in the albums and the same as far as the groups changes on
stage. County music
just could not accommodate the influx of ideas, and so we had to change
the style in order to
accommodate those ideas, and express them."
Bruce Brown: "Well there's been relatively very little change,
you and Jerry and Marty at least
have been together from the very beginning."
Terry Taylor: "From the very very beginning, so it's the same
people involved. And yet, there
are these musical changes and I think Spiritual changes reflected in the
music, in the lyrics,
in our own attitudes. So there's evolvement, there should be, I think there's
something wrong if
we just are an oldies band, you know just repeating past experiences and
doing past music. We
still incorporate some of the older songs but I'm excited about the new
things God is doing in
my life."
Bruce Brown: "On each of the past Daniel Amos projects there's
been one little snippet of
weirdness, on the first album there was 'Skeptic's Song' and 'Meal' on
Shotgun Angel and some
other things that you've done that have been sort of out in left field
and now we come to
'Shedding The Mortal Coil' - (ha ha...)"
Terry Taylor: "(Ha ha ha) Well yeah I'll always have to have
a bit of fun, you know. But not
fun for funs sake I think one of the things we like to include on each
album is just a little
snippet of humor (of-huuumur). That was one of the things we picked up
from Randy Stonehill
of all people 'Shedding The Mortal Coil' in reference to the flesh."
it's falling off/ it's unraveling
it's come undone/ it's all over...
Bruce Brown: "On 'Endless Summer' you mention
a topic that is a guess is a major past time for
people who live in southern California, seeking perfect beauty, being seen
in all the right places,
doing all the right things, wearing the right label on your bottom, things
like that..."
Terry Taylor: "Yeah, this songs an important one because what
it's really saying is there is an
'Endless Summer' that exists and it's an eternal one and it's one that
we will spend with Christ.
but if we're looking for an eternal summer in - on this earthly plain it
will be something that will
elude us. We can fill ourselves up with days of laying around on the beach
and surfing and
partying and if were fortunate enough to be able to afford to do nothing
but that. We would still
sense emptiness inside, we would know that wasn't what we were really looking
for that it
was something else, cause the thing we were really looking for is peace
with God."
surfer girls/ surfer boys
all those hoping to catch the ultimate wave...
Bruce Brown: "What's Rebel Base Productions?
You'll find out when the Daniel Amos Radio
Special returns..."
Bruce Brown: "This is the Daniel Amos Radio
Special where we're reviewing the band's latest
album Alarma. Our special guest is group spokesman Terry Taylor."
Bruce Brown: "There's a design on the back of the album cover
that says Rebel Base
Productions what exactly is Rebel Base is that the group or is there other
people involved just
besides the members of DA?"
Terry Taylor: "Really Rebel Base Productions which is a co-ownership
between Daniel Amos
and Tom Howard is a dream come true, and it's something that I've always
wanted, I've always
wanted to be involved with production. And so, with Alarma it was
a group produced album
along with Thom Roy, and the other members. And it is a wonderful thing
because it does
afford the opportunity for them also to use talents that they haven't used
before. Ed being
envolved in business so much he's handling the publishing end of things,
Jerry I think has a gift
for production and I think he'll be used in that area on down the line
as Rebel Base develops.
And uh, Marty is the keyboardist though he hasn't been used in the past
on Daniel Amos
albums, well on Alarma he plays all the keyboard parts, it uh, it
just affords a lot of
opportunities in every respect. To stretch ourselves and develope this
thing into something that
will last long after we decide it's time to quit going out on the road."
Bruce Brown: "If you've made it this far and have drawn more
questions than conclusions from
this special, then listen closely to Terry's thoughts on the next song
'Walls Of Doubt'."
Terry Taylor: "Here we're speaking words we're telling people
you know, that Jesus is the
answer. We can't make that real, the only thing that we can do, and that's
the very thing that
'Walls Of Doubt' is saying that the Holy Spirit will make that real. And
we're trusting if the
person doesn't know Jesus and is listening to this that the Holy Spirit
will begin to make
Christ real in their hearts this very moment. And that's not to say that
you shouldn't question
because you should, it was only by questioning that I came to knowledge
of who Christ is.
And so be encouraged to ask the hard questions at the same time it doesn't
mean that every
question will be answered, but there are certain basics 'who am I?', 'where
did I come from?',
and 'where am I going?' and I think those can be answered. And uh, Christ
is the answer for
that and only the Holy Spirit can make that real."
there's that look in your eye/ i know what you're thinking
it's just like the sixties to me/ you paint it all black...
Bruce Brown: "As a final sort of post script
you include the song 'Ghost Of The Heart'."
Terry Taylor: "Yeah it is - it is the p.s. of the album and it
questions the whole reason for
doing the album. Why did we set out to do it? Why did I write it? Was it
to get out this album
that everyone would say Daniel Amos is innovative, some will be saying
that - some will be
saying 'What's happened to Daniel Amos?' (Ha ha ha) 'Those guys are gone,
you know.' It's not
enough to just tell people the Gospel because we may have motives for that.
Much of Christian
music is for the buck , there's power of politics involved, I know we've
experienced it. We know
what it's all about and that's just gonna' burn right up. The treasure
that will remain is a treasure
that is stored in heaven."
way back in my heart/ is the motive for this
i ask the question/ did i do it for self?...
Bruce Brown: "For those of you who's appetites
have been wetted a brief word from Terry
Taylor about the Alarma Chronicles Volume Two..."
Terry Taylor: "Doppelganger is the name of the next album,
the ideas for that are still being
formulated. And I think there will be more and more clarity as we go on,
we've got four albums
to embark on this - it's really a musical adventure for us. And we hope
the listeners will come
along on that adventure..."
Bruce Brown: "The Daniel Amos Radio Special
was produced by Living Water Productions
for the Benson Company, with production assistance from Whitefield Studios
and our faithful
typist Donna Kaywood. Daniel Amos correspondence should be addressed to
D.A.
Intergalactica P. O. Box 1051, Orange, California 92668. For Living Water
Productions I'm
Bruce Brown."
Rod Serling: "You're now entering another dimension,
a dimension not only of sound and mind,
but of Spirit. All the traditional themes of Contemporary Christian Music
are behind you,
having been blown away by the Daniel Amos Radio Special."
Bruce Brown: "This is Bruce Brown inviting you to join us for
a fascinating conversation with
Daniel Amos spokesman Terry Taylor."
Terry Taylor: "A lot of people would rather see Christian music
should be in the church, that's
where it should be and it shouldn't go anywhere else. I think if we have
a message for the world
it's going to have to be preached in the world."
Bruce Brown: "In addition to talking with Terry, we'll be featuring
selections from the
innovative new Daniel Amos album Alarma."
alarma/ somebody's crying
alarma/ somebody's dying...
Bruce Brown: "The Daniel Amos Radio Special coming soon to this station..."